Argumentative Penguin
2 min readOct 17, 2023

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Hello Marlene. I did indeed suggest that I'd like to see racism end - and unfortunately for your argument, I have made the argument that some black people are partly responsible - not for racism, but the continuation of racism. My back catalogue is quite large and nobody is expected to have read it all - but I did that here. https://medium.com/p/9c9699e9866b

Whether or not I 'should' have done this is a moot point, I have.

You've missed the argument I'm making. I don't blame women for misogyny, I don't blame people of colour for racism. What I'm saying is these are social problems for society to deal with AND viewing these problems using a lens of subjective identity based oppressor/oppressed isn't helping. It isn't a strategy that works. Why not? It draws attention and fuels the problem it purports to solve. I think focusing on sex to solve problems that emerge out of sex differences and focussing on skin colour for problems emerging from racism is fundamentally flawed - and we should be taking a more objective approach. If we don't then it leaves us in absolute philosophical chaos when we have incidents like Cooper vs Cooper in Central Park. Everyone grabs their identity and uses it as a weapon with which to beat everyone else. It was either a black man oppressing a woman with a dog because men are dangerous, or it was a white woman calling power down on a poor black man - I think they both behaved like dickheads and should've been sent on an awareness course. As always, the situation was a bit more complicated when the idiots had stopped shouting at each other. https://medium.com/p/2ea00a72efb2

Your last paragraph is indicative of this identity at all costs mindset. 'Only a misogynist could be so ignorant' is a rhetorical weapon. It's a Kafka-Trap, either you agree with me, or YOU are also guilty. https://medium.com/p/e7ee4104dbc8 And for the record, I don't think I am. I'm a Penguin (read my pinned story). And, having said I don't believe in blaming individuals based on their identity, I'm going to say the systemic push of feminism has taken a wrong turn and many people have gone along with a feeling of empowerment rather than a more measured response. https://medium.com/p/c0ec43ff7a52 Human beings are like that - but I don't think it's going to make women safer in the long run.

Feminism isn't women. Feminism is people. Most of them are women; but this is a critique of feminism - because it doesn't meet my standards of gender-egalitarianism. You have taken it as a critique of women because you have focused predominantly on the identity aspect and reacted accordingly. That is fine - but it is not a good footing on which to start a conversation, it is a good footing on which you can begin a lecture and I must listen - and it remains a good lens by which women explore agreement but never hear dissent. https://medium.com/p/342419b743a

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Argumentative Penguin
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