I disagree. I’ve listened to JP from time to time, I’ve not bothered with Tate. You may not like the messaging, and you may question the direction in which they are pushing young men (as do I - particularly in the case of Tate) but they do offer a glimmer of something which feels like betterment. Feels like hope. I warned about this eventuality when I wrote about Tate and Katie Jgln two years back and got a complaint/warning. It’s the hollowing out of the psychological space by the left disengaging from young men entirely.