Argumentative Penguin
2 min readSep 18, 2024

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I have a few thoughts. Firstly, that I have seen the French case covered fairly extensively here in the U.K, perhaps it is different in the US - but here the case is fairly visible.

Secondly, I think this is too simplistic an argument. What you saw in the wake of #MeToo wasn’t shame by men, I think it was confusion. Following #MeToo allegations were made against Johnny Depp and Joe Biden that weren’t as cut and dry as those against Weinstein et al. Men (and to a lesser extent women) who urged caution about extra judicial trial by media were called out for being part of the problem.

Feminism is about the rights of both sexes under the law - it isn’t about the division of genders into two groups prepared to kick each other to death - but that’s what’s happened. Extreme voices on both sides have dominated the discussion and led to the world becoming profoundly less safe for women. Centrist men arent shamed, there is just no easy way to solve the problem.

Lots of easy ways are suggested… but most of them simply engender backlash from the manosphere and rapturous applause from everyone who wants to virtue signal they want progress whilst not actually making any at all.

If we’re going to do feminism properly, then we need less rhetoric and more policy. The case in France is disturbing, but should’ve been discovered, prosecuted and sorted a long time before it was. Funding and laws need to be tightened around revenge porn and/or non consensual online content, undercover police officers need to be dispatched to bring these groups into the light.

But that takes time, better taxation models and serious political will - so it’s just easier to say ‘men are trash and run MSM’ so that’s why.

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