Argumentative Penguin
2 min readApr 18, 2023

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I love wading into arguments with nothing but oceanic metaphors, it's the best way to spend a weekend - and good for you for wading in and throwing your voice into the mix. You've taken a central ground stance which is pretty much in line with where I think we are. I can understand why some women might hate all men but I think that hate has to be a generalisation based on experience of some men - that's not what's being argued. SC is arguing (quite convincingly I might add) that the emotional landscape and the way men and women perceive the world means that hate is a valid way of describing how all men women and vice versa. It's an interesting concept, and as someone fascinated with how people think, it's been great to read the multi-faceted viewpoints.

As for the apathy, I think it's a good observation to make - though, like you, I am also fairly apathetic on most issues. It comes with the liberalism. I don't mind people being jerks as long as they a) do it in their own time and b) don't try to steal the apparatus of power. My own brand of gender equalitarian (I say this rather than feminism) involves an outright rejection of marriage. I see it as a bygone relic, the celebration of the history of control of women and endorsement of the continuing subjugation of women elsewhere in the world not to mention essentially rubber stamping the status quo. I'm utterly baffled why anyone would want to be married, let alone ardent outspoken feminists in my social circle who get all gooey about picking a dress and lose all sense of rationality. That said, I still attend weddings and I don't mind other people being married if that's what they both want - even if I disagree. That, in a nutshell, is liberal apathy. A recognition that my brand of how the world should be is merely one squawking voice in eight billion. I don't know how we minimise harm but I'm not sure we're doing a great job at the moment.

For the record; I should state that I would get married to a) get someone in or out of a hostile nation and b) for tax reasons for any hatchlings I may have.... but both of those are problems in law and should be altered so marriage isn't a solution to any problem posed by a Government. :o)

Lovely to meet you and can't wait to read more of your stuff. Thanks for wading in and welcome to Medium. It's a nice place to start a genital based royal-rumble. :o)

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Argumentative Penguin
Argumentative Penguin

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