Argumentative Penguin
1 min readJul 23, 2022

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The laws around such things are complicated (as you've pointed out) and the same thing is true here in the UK - unfortunately when banging together an article for the average reader, we miss such nuances. But yes, the general point was that the State can override bodily autonomy in some instances to give medication to people who don't want it but it's quite complicated to do so. The situation you've described for Jeremy is closer in reality to how it is for people here in the UK too.

My very brief bit of research (and I'll admit it wasn't much) threw up Turner v Safley as a supporting case because of the Turner test. Essentially saying prison/prison hosptial systems should be able to make decisions and base medical interventions, including overturning bodily autonomy, on their own review process. I could be wrong - but it doesn't matter because Eve won't go and read the cases anyway.

For what it's worth, Eve asks a lot of questions, doesn't read the answers - that's why my tone is so brief. She isn't really starting a conversation and she isn't particularly interested in the response. I have had a few months of such irritating tactics in my comments section.

Thanks for popping up and throwing these additional insights in my direction. The UK and US are similar, but there seems to be a more 'sink or swim you fuckers' approach in the US. It makes for interesting reading. :o)

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